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John Harris Said...

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:32 pm
by gepisar
http://www.bbc5.tv/eyeplayer/articles/j ... nters-view

At 56 minutes, 50 seconds, John tells us to make as many copies of our Birth Certificate as we can. He says that hes going to show us HOW to have fun with it. BUT NEVER DOES! Did anyone see this, or does anyone know what hes referring to?

THANKS!

Re: John Harris Said...

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:15 pm
by hawklord
your link doesn't work or THEY have removed it

Re: John Harris Said...

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:49 pm
by mOz
I recall after seeing John on a couple of occasions, that he has referred to doing something interesting with the birth certificate.
So far though, i don't think he's ever divulged what it actually is that you do with them :puzz:

Ideas anyone :thinks:

mOz

Re: John Harris Said...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:09 am
by the trojan
i wrote in a post about six months ago that john harris and brian gerrish et al would have a terrible time dealing with the ego when they became known and celebritised (a new word!)
John Harris is not presenting new material or anything he has uncovered personally .
He has consolidated info that we are all aware of through our personal research,stuff that is out there.
The problem I see is that his audience are putting him on a pedestal.
He is not the messiah,Hes a very naughty boy.

every time he stands in front of an audience he becomes different in the eyes of the beholder and is raised in their eyes.
unfortunate but true.
Has he changed his basic premise since he started...i doubt it.
someone has to get the info out there and whoever does is opening themselves up to folklore and fame.

He is not the messiah,Hes a very naughty boy.

Re: John Harris Said...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:52 pm
by gepisar
the trojan wrote:i wrote in a post about six months ago that john harris and brian gerrish et al would have a terrible time dealing with the ego when they became known and celebritised (a new word!)

Ok fair enough. Im going to challenge a few points you made, and have fun with this! I think I know what you're getting at, but Im going to challenge it anyway. First, explain what "EGO" is. Ive yet to see a good definition even from psychologists!
John Harris is not presenting new material or anything he has uncovered personally .
Fine with me, if it wasnt for him presenting the info, I wouldnt know about it. So good on him.
He has consolidated info that we are all aware of through our personal research,stuff that is out there.
I have no problem with that, i guess John would say as much too.
The problem I see is that his audience are putting him on a pedestal.

How is it a problem, and whose putting him a pedestal? I didnt know where else to put this thread, and I have lots of question about the material he presents. I was going to start a thread about his videos where I can ask questions about what hes saying. Im not taking what he says lightly or on faith. Thats why Im here. Asking the questions. I assume you approve, and Im asking with sincerity.
He is not the messiah,

Are you serious? Of course he isnt,
Hes a very naughty boy.

Oh boy, what do you mean naughty? Please dont think Im defending John, but I am genuinely asking, what has he done that brings you to the conclusion hes naughty. If theres something hes done that is illegal or flawed, I'd certainly like to know. Im just about to jump into all this.
every time he stands in front of an audience he becomes different in the eyes of the beholder and is raised in their eyes.
unfortunate but true.
Not in my eyes. Ive watched several of his videos,and at least THREE are the same presentation with nothing added except maybe a story or two, but hes certainly become a more polished presenter.
Has he changed his basic premise since he started...i doubt it.
What was his basic premise?
someone has to get the info out there

Well, John IS getting the info out there with his videos and website. And if what you say
and whoever does is opening themselves up to folklore and fame.

is true, then what you have stated in this post should come as expected and Im wondering now why you point it out?

Im just curious as to the fun we can have with the birth certificates. I want to try it out. And if its true, it adds credence to the story!

Re: John Harris Said...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:56 pm
by gepisar
hawklord wrote:your link doesn't work or THEY have removed it

No, dont think THEY removed it, just a cut and past error:

http://www.bbc5.tv/eyeplayer/articles/john-harris-carpenters-view

In case the above link doesnt work

www.bbc5.tv/eyeplayer/articles/john[dash]harris[dash]carpenters[dash]view

Re: John Harris Said...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:11 pm
by hawklord
thanx got it :yes:
i wonder what he is on about as well :puzz: unless its afv'ing it

Re: John Harris Said...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:38 pm
by gepisar
May be its just as simple as when someone ask to see "John Smith" you send a copy of your b/c?
Or when someone calls on the phone and asks to speak to John Smith, you just leave the phone on top of the b/c???
Surely theres more....

Re: John Harris Said...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:39 pm
by emmanualgoldstein
I think hes too busy trying to be rob menard to be himself.

Re: John Harris Said...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:46 pm
by gepisar
Hey come on. I sense a bit of negativity toward JH in this forum. Whats gone on?